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AT&T 3G MicroCell - Review
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David Moyer
2009-10-03 05:52:59 UTC
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fairly decent review of the 3G MicroCell

http://theappleblog.com/2009/10/02/review-att-3g-microcell/
John Navas
2009-10-03 18:10:57 UTC
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Post by David Moyer
fairly decent review of the 3G MicroCell
http://theappleblog.com/2009/10/02/review-att-3g-microcell/
While the tiny cellular base station, or femtocell, is not yet
available in places like New York or San Francisco, where the CALL
DROP RATE IS RUMORED TO BE AS HIGH AS 30 PERCENT FOR SOME IPHONE
USERS ... [emphasis added]
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If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
David Moyer
2009-10-04 01:01:14 UTC
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Post by John Navas
While the tiny cellular base station, or femtocell, is not yet
available in places like New York or San Francisco, where the CALL
DROP RATE IS RUMORED TO BE AS HIGH AS 30 PERCENT FOR SOME IPHONE
USERS
so you are saying the iPhone is extremely popular in extremely populous
areas... thanks for the note!
John Navas
2009-10-04 15:17:46 UTC
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Post by David Moyer
Post by John Navas
While the tiny cellular base station, or femtocell, is not yet
available in places like New York or San Francisco, where the CALL
DROP RATE IS RUMORED TO BE AS HIGH AS 30 PERCENT FOR SOME IPHONE
USERS
so you are saying the iPhone is extremely popular in extremely populous
areas... thanks for the note!
You are too funny!
--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2009-10-04 23:33:24 UTC
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Post by John Navas
Post by David Moyer
Post by John Navas
While the tiny cellular base station, or femtocell, is not yet
available in places like New York or San Francisco, where the CALL
DROP RATE IS RUMORED TO BE AS HIGH AS 30 PERCENT FOR SOME IPHONE
USERS
so you are saying the iPhone is extremely popular in extremely populous
areas... thanks for the note!
You are too funny!
Where's that SuperGSM you told us was coming, eh?

John Navas
2009-10-03 18:15:55 UTC
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Post by David Moyer
fairly decent review of the 3G MicroCell
http://theappleblog.com/2009/10/02/review-att-3g-microcell/
There are a few issues with the MicroCell, though. The range is 40 to
60 feet in a straight line, but you better be living in a tent. So
far, I’ve found signal quality degrading through multiple walls,
especially when calling from the kitchen, the room farthest from the
MicroCell.

That's a radio transmission issue, just like Wi-Fi.

I’m still experimenting, but turning off Wi-Fi on the
iPhone seems to increase both range and reception at extended
distances for me.

That would be an iPhone issue, not a radio issue, since 3G is in a
different band from Wi-Fi.

There is one other potential performance issue. Should you be using
computers for network intensive applications, like backing up online
or torrenting. . . Ubuntu distributions, you may have problems during
calls. Others said I was cutting out, though I heard them clearly.

You could probably solve that with a router that has quality of service
options.
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Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
Mark Crispin
2009-10-04 15:36:39 UTC
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A pathetic 40-60 foot range that doesn't even cover all rooms of this
guys's house. My Verizon femtocell covers at least a 150 foot radius,
even through trees and/or walls with metal ducting.

And what's this about requiring 1.5MB down/256KB up? Voice doesn't need
anywhere near that much bandwidth. If anyone with 7MB down/512KB up is
having problems with voice cutting out, either their QoS options are set
wrong on their router, or their ISP is not delivering the promised
bandwidth, or their ISP is doing stuff to screw over VoIP (especially if
it's cable instead of DSL).

Then there's the normal AT&T silliness.

Why do you have to log into a MicroCell site with wireless account info
and serial number to "activate" the MicroCell? It may be convenient to
register a list of authorized numbers, but completely unnecessary. It
should just plug and play.

Why do you need to have a 3G phone with AT&T? You should not need service
to buy a femtocell. You are providing AT&T service - greater wireless
coverage - not the other way around, and you're buying the equipment to do
so!

Why do you need an "eligible, local address" and why can't you move your
MicroCell without telling AT&T? The MicroCell is going to report its GPS
location to the mothership. Either it is in an AT&T licensed service area
or it is not. It doesn't matter if you take it with you when you visit
your grandmother's house in another state; if Granny is in an AT&T
licensed service area and has broadband, just plug it in and after a few
minutes it should be online.

What's this about 911? A femtocell knows its location to pass on to 911.

[By the way, the GPS serves two functions. First is to identify its
location to the mothership. Second is to get precise time, which is
needed by CDMA-based technologies (and yes, 3G is CDMA based).]

Why can't you eBay your MicroCell? The only reason why AT&T should even
care is to change the ownership records so the new owner can tweak the
authorized number records.

Then again, I guess that AT&T customers have very low expectations.
That's why they settle for crappy service and crappy phones like the
iPhone.

-- Mark --

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
David Moyer
2009-10-04 22:06:52 UTC
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Post by Mark Crispin
Then again, I guess that AT&T customers have very low expectations.
That's why they settle for crappy service and crappy phones like the
iPhone.
poor mark, never can catch a break. the iphone is steamrolling the
industry he once knew, he makes up all kinds of limitations of the att
microcell, none which are true.

crispin is our canary in the old cell industry coal mine.
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